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Transcript of Interview with Jerry Usher about Faith Database. This interview and others like it can be found at http://www.catholicspotlight.com

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Chris Cash: This is the Catholic Spotlight, the podcast where we talk about what is new, cool and exciting in the Catholic marketplace. I am your host, Chris Cash, Director of e-Commerce from CatholicCompany.com, your source for all your Catholic needs.

Today in the Spotlight, I think you are going to be absolutely thrilled to hear Jerry Usher and hear about the new product that Jerry has put together. It is honestly the most incredible thing that has hit the Catholic marketplace at least this year if not, the past few years. So, Jerry, glad to have you on.

Jerry Usher: Thank you Chris, great to be here.

Chris Cash: We are talking tonight about Faith Database and I think, regular listeners of the show were going to know that I am pretty much always excited in some way about the things that we are talking about on the show but is just exceptionally so. This product is, it is not completely unique in what it has done, but it is absolutely the biggest and best conglomeration of old writings from the church; bibles, catechism, saint’s stories, you name it, apologetics, writings of the early church fathers, papal documents. It is all there and it is all in a very easy to use and find format. You can download it to your PDA. I just cannot stop talking about this product, Jerry.

Jerry Usher: Well, I appreciate that Chris.

Chris Cash: I do not even know why I brought you on the show, I could have just done 30 minutes talking about it myself I think.

Jerry Usher: Well look, you knock yourself out and if you need my help, I am right here.

Chris Cash: I have been talking about this product for several months now. I am going to share the little story about how I found out about this.

Several months back, I was at the conference and saw the table where your people were promoting an early version of this. I saw it and I saw it in action and I said, “Wow.” But it was only half of a wow because the content was awesome, the search engine was awesome, the cross-referencing ability was awesome, but it was missing some spit and polish as far as the boxing and how nicely formatted the user-interface was and some things like that. But I was sold, now as onboard from that day one after seeing it just that one time and said, “You know, this is going to be so excellent when it does hit the market full force.” I have been on board with this ever since and I am just so excited that it is finally here.

Jerry Usher: Well, so are we. It debut on – what was it? Friday, August 1st actually and sales have been brisk and I think people are realizing like you said, you are right, it is not unique, there are some similar products like this out there but there is nothing that I know of that can change all. I mean, this has just got more resources than anything else out there. We are excited about it. The price point is just virtually unheard of for something like this. So, I think, it is going to be popular. We appreciate you talking about it.

Chris Cash: Well, you know, the closest thing on the market to this right now is a $100 to buy and this is at least at the time of the recording of this podcast, it is only $40. So, it is a tremendous bargain and it has got a lot more material in it than the older program does as well. So, it is like a $100 or $40 and gets a whole bunch more stuff.

So, why don’t we start of by letting you talk a little bit about your involvement with this project and let us talk a little bit about what is in the resource beyond the basics we have given so far.

Jerry Usher: Well, I have got to tell the story of how I got involved. First, because it is really quite amazing, I mean, this has the hand of God all over it, Chris.

Chris Cash: I think everybody is going to have a story about this.

Jerry Usher: Well, as your listeners may or may not know, I host Catholic Answers Live and it is kind of an outgrowth of that. I have sort of have been asked to do a lot of radio station fund drives, pledge drives around the country. I mean, I travel six months out of a year doing that usually in the spring and in the fall. One of the cities that I go to is Fort Wayne, Indiana and there is a gentleman there named Tim Cooper. He converted to Catholicism in 2003 and for his own use in his own edification, he began building the Faith Database back in ’03. It was really just kind of be for himself and maybe to share with some people that he knows.

So, I went to Fort Wayne to do a pledge drive and he handed me a copy of it. He said, “Hey, I like you to check this out. Maybe, it is something that Catholic Answers will be interested in.” As is the case so often, you know, I have people handing me stuff all the time saying, “Hey, check this out. Look at my website.” I brought it home and I am ashamed to say that I put it on my desk and months and months went by and the next time I was in Fort Wayne for a pledge drive, he said, “Have you looked at the Database?” I said, “No, I am sorry. I have not.”

So, he said, “Well, here is another copy.” I said, “All right.” I mean, I am shame faced. I got to look at this so. He was even on the airplane and when I get back to San Diego, I popped it into my computer and I thought, “Oh, my goodness. This thing is incredible.”

So, a little bit of time went by and I thought, you know what? In addition to my work at Catholic Answers, my own apostolate Third Millennium Media, we were working with a lot of radio stations, really anything media we are going to be involved in and this is obviously media.

So, I called Tim Cooper and I said, “Tim, what are you doing with the Faith Database? Well, I mean, are you doing anything with it, marketing it, selling it?” He said, “Well, we probably given away more copies and we sold.” I said, “Well, you know that happens some time.” I explained, “I have got my own apostolate lest we might be interested in this, let us talk.”

Well, it turned out he and his team had that very day or maybe the day before or that day, had just completed a novena with the intention of “Lord, what do you want us to do with this?”

So, the timing of my call came right at the end of their novena. So, we all believe that this is completely the hand of God and it is in a perfect fit. They do not have marketing tools and the abilities to recreate it like you said. We have got a whole new look to it, we have got media blitz going on and so it has been great. We have entered into a partnership. We see a long, lasting partnership developing out of this and that is kind of how it got started. But you asked about the content if I may share that for just a minute.

Chris Cash: Absolutely. Let us hear.

Jerry Usher: Well, it is CD-ROM. For those who do not know, it is a database. That means, it is just a computer program loaded with data that you will want to access. What it is, you can download it from the website, FaithDatabase.com or you can order the product there on the website and we will ship it to you. What you do is you load it on your computer and then the program has more than 10 Bible translations. It has got a Greek Bible, all throughout history, the Ecumenical Council Documents of the church; Council of Nicaea, Council of Chalcedon, Council of Trent, Vatican I, Vatican II, it has got all of the papal writings, over 1,300 writings of the popes.

So, you are looking at encyclicals of John Paul II, Leo XIII, all the way back, it has got the Catholic Encyclopedia, 1,500 complete books on it. You know Aquinas’ books, Chesterton’s book, Newman’s book, the Fathers and Doctors of the Church. You know, what did the early Christian say about the faith, what did the Doctors of the Church throughout of the history of the church said, it has got church history, it has got information about the saints, apologetics, conversion stories, Bible Art and Math, images and conversion stories and again, it is like a database.

So, as a database, it is all linked together. So, you just put in a word or a phrase you want to search like Eucharist or Immaculate Conception or fasting or penance and automatically in just a few seconds, you got scripture references to that word or phrase, church fathers, in other words, just a whole library full of stuff. You can bookmark things and go back to it. You mentioned, you can download it to your PDA, you can export it to PDF file and e-mail this to people.

So, really, this is going to revolutionize the way people study, learn, live, love and shares the Catholic faith. So, I am not excited about it, can you tell?

Chris Cash: Well, you know, it is one of those things that I just think that anybody who is even an arm chair theologian or apologist is going to find as an absolute necessity to have on their computer. You could certainly make an argument that probably every bit of this stuff is available for free somewhere out there on the Internet in the public domain. However, it is not put together in such a succinctly and easily searchable and cross-referenced format as this anywhere else. In fact, the thing that sold me when I saw it the first time, Nathaniel I think was the guy who was showing it off, he pulled up a bible verse. I think it was John 1:1 and right next to the verse was a show cross-references and he clicks that show cross-references on John 1:1 and up pops about 20 different reference to John 1:1 in church father’s documents, in Papal Documents, in Thomas Aquinas, Saint Augustine, Chesterton, you name it, any reference to that bible verse that was in the database popped up right there. I was just like, this is incredible.

Jerry Usher: It is. Yes, like I said, it is going to revolutionize the way people study the faith. You mentioned there are other similar products out there. God bless them, they are doing great stuff like I know some of the people who have developed them. They are friends of mine and they have been used by a lot of people and I would hope the people continue to look to them if that is what is going to serve their needs. Like I said, they did a lot of good. We have just managed to develop this with – we think a world full of content on there. We priced it like you said, at less than $40. So, we wanted to make it within the reach of everybody because you got students out there, priests, seminarians, moms, dads, home schoolers. I mean, this is the kind of thing that for $40, you got a resource that is just phenomenal. As you know Chris, people can actually get prized with their order in other words, we have got an extra bonus for folks who want to pay just a little bit more, they are going to get continual downloads of even more resources for the Faith Database.

Chris Cash: Yes, tell us about this, the subscription service.

Jerry Usher: Well, we call it the Faith Database friend. If you want to be a friend of the Faith Database, you pay just $10 more and for a full year every month, we are going to send out an e-mail blast to everybody say, “Hey, your monthly download is ready and we are going to have 10 new books.” I mean, full books you are talking about. I do not even know what they are right now, but already on the database or authors like G.K. Chesterton, Thomas a Kempis, Thomas Aquinas, John Henry Newman and we are looking around for those public domain resources that like you say, they are all out there on the Internet, but this will incorporate them into your database.

So, for a whole year, you get a monthly download of 10 new books. Actually at $10 more and this just expands the information on somebody’s database. A lot of people are already becoming Faith Database friends because they realize the more information you can have access to, the better.

Chris Cash: In addition to the additional books, it is also going to give you access to continued updates of the engine that runs the database so that as there are improvements in how the functionality of the program works, you will also have access to those as well.

Jerry Usher: Yes, absolutely. We are not going to stop with what we currently have. Tim Cooper is the guy who developed it. He is a computer programmer. Like I say, he is just been wheedling away, adding stuff on to this almost daily, when he gets home from work and he says, add this book, that book, this encyclical, that encyclical and Tim has ideas about partnering more aggressively with Third Millennium Media and not only bolstering this product down the road but creating other products as well.

So, we may end up creating a whole software division of TMM.

Chris Cash: That sounds exciting as well, my goodness. Anything that you can share about that or is that all are going to be kept under wraps?

Jerry Usher: I do not know that I can. I mean, there is no reason I cannot. You know, one thing that Tim has come across or at least I think he might even been creating is a denominational comparison software. In other words, you would put in, you would click on or enter a certain doctrine like salvation or baptism or whatever and automatically, it will come up with what is the Catholic understanding of this, a thorough theological presentation or the Catholic understanding of baptism, the method of understanding, the Presbyterian, the Baptist, the Evangelical. So, that is one thing with Tim. I do not know if he is working on it yet or not but that is kind of a denominational side by side comparison which I think, will be tremendously helpful for people because we all have family members and friends who were in different Christian traditions and to be able to talk with them about these things, it will be invaluable to know where they are coming from and what the ancient Catholic teaching is. So, that is one idea that I think is on top of the future.

Chris Cash: Well, of course, that also assumes that your friend or family member knows what their church believes in the first place.

Jerry Usher: Exactly.

Chris Cash: Yes, that does sound like a really neat tool if for no other reason just from a research standpoint and understanding standpoint of our fellow brothers in Christ.

Jerry Usher: Yes, no doubt. We got to be able to dialog. You know the old saying, if we do not hang together, we will hang separately. The mounting attacks on Christianity are getting heavier and heavier all the time. So, we have got to be sticking together. The more we understand what each other believes then we are going to be better off, no question.

Chris Cash: Now, I wanted to talk for a couple of minutes more about this PDA functionality because that is also one of the just really exciting parts of this software I think is the fact that at least with the books, it is not with everything in the software, but at least with the books and the writings of the early church, you can download them on to your Smartphone, on to your BlackBerry, on to your Palm Pilot, whatever PDA you have got and just be able to carry that around with you and say, “Today, I want to read the Summa and boom, just download it, put it on there and you have got the Summa to carry around with you.

Jerry Usher: Yes, no doubt. I mean, you know Chris, you are a busy guy, I am, all of our listeners today are a very busy people. We know, we are on the go all the time and we are living in a high technology world, you are deep into the new media, I am learning more about it, but yes, we wanted to make this something that you did not have to be sitting at your home computer or even necessarily with your laptop and your wireless in an airport or a restaurant or coffee shop.

So, yes, we wanted to make it so that a good portion of the database can be downloaded into a PDA and like you said, you have got a few minutes to kill, read what Thomas Aquinas wrote about the virtues or something or many of the other things that you can download. So, we are very excited about that future.

Chris Cash: Now, warnings to all of you out there, do not read Thomas Aquinas while driving.

Jerry Usher: Yes, that is right. If you are having trouble going to sleep at night, it makes a great bedside companion.

Chris Cash: I find myself doing that quite often. My wife has gone to sleep and I will be lying there and I just pick up my phone and start reading the news or something like that. So, I think I will have some additional things to read now.

Jerry Usher: Well, yes, that is good. Hopefully, it will help you go to sleep but not before you learn something important.

Chris Cash: That is right. All right, we are going to take a break here for just a minute to hear from our sponsors but we will be back real quick to hear more about Faith Database with Jerry Usher and this is Chris from the Catholic Spotlight.

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Chris Cash: I am back on the Catholic Spotlight with Jerry Usher talking about Faith Database and folks, this is not an infomercial. I hope that sound too much like one from the beginning because I just have not been this excited about something in so long. What is really neat, this past week, I had Christopher West with Heaven’s Song which was also just a very exciting, the hidden writings of John Paul II coming out and learning about that and this is just even more excitement building on that I guess for me.

Jerry Usher: Excellent.

Chris Cash: I am just kind of beside myself on the excited phase or maybe it is the fact that we were recording this really late at night, one or the other.

Jerry Usher: Exactly.

Chris Cash: Anyway, I have a couple of questions from some of our listeners that they sent these questions in and for those of you who are listening now, keep in mind that we are always very happy to get listener feedback and listener questions from you guys. Send it over through our Facebook account. Join our Facebook group in the Catholic Spotlight. If you are a part of our Facebook group, we also send out notices there about who the next interview is going to be and let you know when you can send questions in or you can call our listener feedback line at 206-426-1207 with questions as well. Didn’t have any of those this week though, I like the voice feedback though, I really do.

This is a question from Jane Marco in the Chicago area and she writes, “It seems as though this product might be widely used across all Christian denominations although with the decidedly Catholic flavor. Is that true or is this really a specifically Catholic only product?”

Jerry Usher: Well, you know what the answer to those questions would actually both be yes and that is this, the reason is this, well the first reason is because the Catholic faith as we know is the ancient Christian faith, the unchanging, unchangeable Christian faith that Christ gave to the church over 2,000 years ago so, it is for all Christians, it really is. There are many sincere, well-intentioned Christians who do not yet know the fullness of the faith. So, I think, the Faith Database will be helpful for them. In fact, you will find on the database, there are a lot of conversion stories about people who have through their study of the church fathers and church history and even scripture of course, have come to see the truth of the Catholic faith.

So, yes, I think it definitely is for all people and certainly for Catholics because it is 2,000 years of Catholicism, but that is like I say, the one true church and the one true faith and that is not to be triumphalistic, it is just an objective reality but the other thing I wanted to mention is we have purposely tried to package and present the Faith Database in a way that will be if not appealing to non-Catholic Christians, certainly not an instant turn off. You know, we had designed the packaging. Packaging that had the rosary and the picture of the pope on there and this stuff which we certainly would have no opposition to. We would see that a lot of people would pick it up or even not even get to that point of picking it up, just glance at that and say, “Oh, I am not interested, it is Catholicism.” But we have given it I think, a look that is appealing to anyone and everyone. They will pick it up, they will look at it, maybe their interest would be peek and we think it is a great tool to alert non-Catholics, too. Again, it is non-threatening, it is just simply, “Folks, this is 2,000 years of Christianity, dive in and see what is says.”

Chris Cash: Yes, certainly someone who is oppositional to a book about the saints is not going to be real happy with this. But if there are somebody who is at least interested enough in history of the church and of the saints and of anything else, the writings of the early church, the writings of Saint Augustine, Aquinas and then so forth, I think a lot of people in other churches will be open to the material that is in here. At least as far as it goes as a resource.

Jerry Usher: Yes, I think so. There are a lot of non-Catholic Christians who use it already. In fact, among the many testimonials on our website FaithDatabase.com, you will find there is an apostolic minister, there are a few I think that are people who are members of non-Catholic churches, but they just simply stay very objectively and truthfully, “Hey, this has helped me get more connected with the historical Christian church” does not mean they are going to become Catholic tomorrow, that is not necessarily our goal. Obviously, we want everyone to be Catholic and that is what Jesus would want, everyone to belong to authentic church. But we are not throwing this at people saying, “You got to be Catholic and read this stuff and you will be and if you do not, then that is your problem.” We are just simply like you say, putting it out there as a resource and people I think are recognizing that and making use of it.

Chris Cash: All right. Well, the next question I have got is from Meredith Gould and she is from MededithGould.blogspot.com. I think, forgot to mention Jane Marco, her blog is BuildingTheArk.blogspot.com. But Meredith kind of peppered me with a whole bunch of short questions. I think some of them we have already answered but I am going to throw out some of them that we have not gotten to yet. So, these are from Meredith and her first question we have and already addressed is “What if any hoops, did you have to jump through with the USCCB, the Holy See or any other institutions that were involved with some of the materials that are on the database?”

Jerry Usher: Well, what I did is I flew to Rome and had lunch with Paul Benedict, I just told them, and he said, “Well, go ahead, you can have it.” I am kidding.

Ever thing on the Faith Database that is actually on the database is public domain. There are several public domain bible translations all of the book and of course the Papal Writings and everything. That is all put out there by the church. Like you say, you can see it on the Vatican website, you can see it on website all over the world. So, we have been very careful about this. Believe me because you can walk into a landmine with stuff like this. But we have had a copyright attorney go through everything and he has made sure that everything that is on the database is public domain. There are some things that are not and you mentioned like the US Bishop’s Conference that catechism of the Catholic Church, what the database does is the catechism is available online to download on to your computer. We could not include it on the database. We talked to the Bishop’s Conference, they wanted a certain amount of money, a percentage of sales and so forth and we thought, “Well, we will just put a link to the catechism for example on the Internet. Like you say, it is available in different areas to download so, my understanding unless I am wrong about this, is the database, when you load it on there I think, it goes to Internet and gets the catechism for you. So, that is how that operates like a Code of Canon Law and some other things, there are a couple of bible translations that are not on the database either because they are copyrighted as well. So, those particular translations will take you to the Internet.

So, we went through everything with the fine tooth comb. We are very careful about those things that we were legally allowed to include actually on the database, but there are some things that will jump you on to the Internet. So, for those, you have to have access to the web.

Chris Cash: Yes, actually I just installed the software this morning myself so, I am very familiar with it – it loads up very quickly but then it says, “Do you want to update with the other materials?” and you click yes and you spend the next 15 or 20 minutes as it downloads things from the Vatican website and the catechism of the Catholic Church and the Code of the Canon Law. So, it downloads all that to your computer and integrates it into the database but it just takes a few extra minutes just to have that all happen.

Jerry Usher: Yes, you will see on the database there are the tabs at the top of the page. You have got history, bible, writings, encyclopedia, the mass, the saints, apologetics and so forth, there is no tab that says catechism because like I say, we could not include that actually on the database. It would have been great to do that but like I say, it is downloadable on public sites anyway. That is how we take care of that.

Chris Cash: Absolutely. Next question from Meredith was, “How many people were involved in the development and testing of the product?”

Jerry Usher: Well, Meredith, I am not really certain about that. I know that Tim Cooper is the mind and the brains behind of the product generally speaking, but he has his own entity. See, our side of the deal is Third Millennium Media and we are doing the packaging, the marketing and the creation of the look of the product and selling it. He is on I guess, you call it the research and development side. He has a team of folks in Fort Wayne and I know there is about three or four other people involved in that but Tim really did the bulk of the work to get the product, put together the way it is.

Chris Cash: Let us see, what else does Ms Meredith have to ask here, she also was curious about “Who you as Third Millennium are defining as your target audience for this product and how are you promoting it to your different people who would be interested in it?”

Jerry Usher: At the risk of someone like a cap out here, I would say, the target audience is everyone. We want to place a copy of this on every Catholic computer in the country as many non-Catholic computers as we can but if I had to break it down obviously, priest – I mean, we would love to get a copy to every priest because what a resource. I mean, for RCIA, Confirmation and Sacramental preparation, homily preparation, what a great gift this would make. If anybody wants to buy a copy for their priests, seminarians definitely, those apologists, more and more people will become real apologist. Maybe not in the mold of Tim Staples, Jimmy Akin, Karl Keating and Pat Madrid but people are really taking an interest in the faith, they are hungry for it and they want to share it. So, those kinds of people as well, but you are talking about home schooling families. Prison – well, prison inmates do not have access to computers I guess, but maybe they do. I do not know.

Chris Cash: Some of them do.

Jerry Usher: But you know, I mean, just generally speaking, anybody who loves the Lord and wants to know their faith, so again, I do not mean just give a kind of a cookie cutter answer to that, but we do not have any one target audience. What are we doing to market it, you know. So far, we got a few web banner ads out there, podcast and radio shows like this and we are hoping that word of mouth is going to be very helpful in marketing this force as well.

Chris Cash: All right, well, was there anything else in particular about Faith Database that we are missing out on here? I think we have covered most of the stuff that I thought about covering with regard to this.

Jerry Usher: Yes, I think that is a good summary of it and you know, the bottom line Chris, you and I talked about this, we want God to get the glory and we want people – the bible says, “God wills that all men be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.” You know, that is an interesting statement and scripture when you think about it because why would not God willing that all men be saved be enough, it is not enough. God wants us to come to the knowledge of the truth and that is going to aid in our salvation.

So, we want God – this is for A) The glory of God and B) The salvation of souls. If we lose focus on that, so help us God, is my philosophy.

Chris Cash: Amen to that.

Jerry Usher: Yes, absolutely.

Chris Cash: Also, since you are involved with Catholic Answers and Catholic Answers Live, I just thought I will give you a moment here to let everybody know that this is Catholic Answers fund drive time and Jerry of course, is the host of Catholic Answers Live, which is one of the best radio programs out there for learning about your faith and getting questions answered on the faith and that has been going for 11 years now, right Jerry?

Jerry Usher: Yes, January of ’09 will be our 11 year mark. So, it is not quite 11 but we are rapidly approaching that and it is my daily blessing. I have so many blessings every day but to be able to get up and go to work and sit behind that microphone five days a week is, it is a wonderful thing for me.

Chris Cash: So, now, Catholic Answers of course, to keep Catholic Answers Live on the air as well as all of the other really awesome apostolate, ministries that they are doing, they need money to help keep the show on the air. I got an e-mail this morning from Karl Keating saying that you guys just had replaced about $10,000 worth of radio equipment this week?

Jerry Usher: It was not this week. Well, it is been within the last couple two to three weeks I think. Yes, we started the show like I said in 1998 January and about 90% of the equipment that we still use is the original equipment. We have tried to treat it with TLC but you know, after 10 years, boy, things are going to break down. So, we had a mixer board that was going out, all the little knobs and buttons were getting, they are all getting dirty and loosen their contacts and things. So, I mean, we are doing the show and we are punching the buttons and saying, “Hey, Barb welcome to the program” and Barb is talking but we could not hear him. So, time to get a new mixer board.

Chris Cash: You cannot blame Satan on that one, right?

Jerry Usher: You will never know. That is definitely not his work. That is just aged equipment. So, yes, we had to buy a few new pieces of equipment recently.

Chris Cash: So, all of you out there who are fans of Catholic Answers, Catholic Answers Live or any of the other great projects that are going on there, head on over to Catholic.com and be sure to put something in on their fund drive going on right now. In fact, for a certain given levels, there is a Faith Database in it included, right?

Jerry Usher: That is correct. Yes, Faith Database and Christmas Cantata DVD called The Birth of Christ, it is a beautiful presentation and even an audio set by Rosalind Moss called the Jewish Roots of Our Catholic Faith but I am not exactly sure when this podcast is going to air but that is good that people can sign in I think through about I do not know, August 19th or 20th. They can go to Catholic.com and find out for sure about that.

Chris Cash: I think we will be airing a little after that. So, I guess, folks, if you have not donated by now, you have missed out, but…

Jerry Usher: They can still donate.

Chris Cash: On that same note, you can still donate, you are just not going to get all the fun swag.

Jerry Usher: That is right.

Chris Cash: I am sure that the financial need will still be great there over Catholic Answers no matter when you listen to this podcast. So, please do help out those awesome folks over there and keep Catholic Answers Live on the air as well as all the other great things they do.

Anything else you want to share with our listeners before we head out?

Jerry Usher: I cannot think of anything. If you have got anything else you want to ask me, fine otherwise it is your show Chris, I am just happy to be on it.

Chris Cash: Well, we are pushing 40 minutes here so, I think we are going to head out. Thank you so much Jerry for taking your time to come over and talk to us. Just help spread the excitement about Faith Database, Catholic Answers and all the things that you do.

Everybody out there, it is always helpful to us if you share about this show with your friends and family. People at church, let them know about the Catholic Spotlight as well as the things we help to promote. Please go over to Facebook, join our group, go over to podcast alley, vote for us, it helps to get us in front of more people out there in the podcast or sphere and that is all I have for this week. Jerry, God bless. It has been a real pleasure.

Jerry Usher: Thank you, Chris. God bless you and your listeners.

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Transcript of Interview with Jerry Usher about Faith Database. This interview and others like it can be found at http://www.catholicspotlight.com

Listen Now to the audio version of the show.

Faith Database is available at The Catholic Company.
http://www.catholiccompany.com/catholic-gifts/7001008/Faith-Database-CD-Rom/